Deniz Kurtoğlu Eken: “It is absolutely thrilling to share what you know and experienced, and to receive positive feedback from the people with whom you do. What else could we be living for?”
“Being able to say ‘I’m sorry’ is a great and very important thing; it is not weakness or loss of power. I try to set an example in this matter, both to myself and to others.”
She was the director of the Sabancı University School of Languages between 2002 and 2012. Becoming a language instructor was an informed choice for her. My guest this Wednesday is Deniz Kurtoğlu Eken with her vibrant colors and personality, merry laughter and warmth. We had a candid conversation with Deniz Kurtoğlu about her past, about education, the condition of language schools in Turkey and at Sabancı University, children’s education and even her love of the stage. This piece will continue next week.

Did you choose to be an instructor or did it happen by chance?
My major is English Language and Literature. I have a sister who is three years older, and she was majoring in English Literature at Hacettepe University at the time, and she was very happy with it. She was my role model. In fact, we have gone to the same schools from primary to university, and chose the same profession. I had a love for language and it was apparent from primary school onwards. When I saw how happy she was with her choice, I went for the language departments as well. I loved literature and I even was the top honor student of my department. Just as I graduated, in 1987, Bilkent University had begun to recruit language instructors for the first time. I loved the language anyway, so I said why not and applied. This is how I ended up as a language instructor. I was thinking about literature, but I went into language, and looking back, I have no regrets. I filled in many roles in this job, from teacher training to administrative positions; I worked extensively on curriculum design and assessment; I never stayed still and that is how I grew.

Are you a happy instructor?
Yes, I am. Being productive, sharing, creating, not being afraid to share… From this perspective, I am very happy with where I am in Turkey right now. In my second year as administrator, I sent out surveys to all universities to gain insight into how they managed their language schools and to facilitate knowledge sharing between universities. The deadline was long from the start, and I even extended it later on, but I only received 36 or 37 responses. I thought this was too few but our then-President Tosun Terzioğlu said, “You should be happy; this is quite a good number for Turkey.”
Now we are in close contact with all language schools in Turkey. People are much more open and sharing; they share their experiences and exchange opinions. Surveys are still getting few responses as people simply can’t be bothered, but the sharing of best practices is much more extensive now, which makes me thoroughly happy. As Sabancı School of Languages we are very open to sharing. We post lots of documents on our website and encourage visitors to download them and use them as they see fit. This makes us both happy and proud. Some institutions still hoard their materials and booklets, prevent others from using them, but I think more and more will decide to share in time. I think it’s great that there is more sharing in this job.

Walking into the School of Languages, I feel as if I’m in a different world. It is quite spacious and colorful, and when all the office and hall doors are open, you get a feeling of roominess like no other. Great music wafts from some rooms. I think women are in the majority there, am I right? You were the director of the School for ten years, and your successor is also a woman. I don’t know how you are in private, but you maintain your lively and colorful side in the school’s social environment. Would you like to say a few words about this?
I don’t think I could live without those colors, that’s what gives me the feeling of choice and change. I’ve had run-ins with my choice of colors: at Bilkent I was once summoned to the director’s office. I was back from America in 1991, and the director called me to her office, asked what the nose piercing I was wearing meant, and had warned me in a subtle way. Another time, I had had a very good train-the-trainer interview, but the feedback included comments about my attire. I was warned to “mind what I was wearing.” I just thought of myself as someone who liked to dress differently and in striking colors. Being colorful may get you into slight trouble from time to time, but I like being colorful, both literally and figuratively.
I enjoy handcrafts too. I’m engrossed in needlework at the moment. I go for the most colorful and vibrant yarns and wool I can find and I knit stuff like blankets and mats; I work with beads, I make rings… I give the stuff I make to people as presents, and sometimes to people I don’t know. This makes me happy; it adds meaning to my life. Color isn’t limited to how light reflects off the surface of an object; it also has to do with how you communicate with people. I was at the hospital the other day, and there is a very polite, smiling woman there who always asks about my day when I’m there, and it fills me with happiness to see her smiling face. So I went out and bought a scarf for her, gave it to her saying, “I hope your smile never fades,” and I held her hand. She was very happy, of course; but I was even happier.
Reading in areas other than your field of expertise is another way of enriching yourself because you never know where you might find inspiration. In all meetings I attend and presentations I make, I tell my colleagues that being interested in altogether different areas expands your horizon. I read psychology for example; I try to comprehend quantum physics and come up with very different ideas. There are popular psychology, sociology and personal development books that I read all the time. In fact, I read little about English language instruction. I do read about management, but more inspiration comes from books on self-development and I love that. But of course we must not hoard all we read; it is absolutely thrilling to share what you know and experienced, and to receive positive feedback from the people with whom you do. What else could we be living for? You can’t completely eliminate petty ambitions in work, family or friendships but I feel that personal development is absolutely necessary for peace, welfare and a happy life.
You mean being at peace with oneself.
Yes, but that doesn’t happen overnight.

Of course not; you always try to round out your corners throughout your life, beginning with childhood, all the way to old age.
Absolutely. For instance, being able to say ‘I’m sorry’ is a great and very important thing, and I always make a conscious effort in this matter. Apologizing to my son is one thing. I think about why it is so hard to do, and I try to set an example in this matter, both to myself and to others. Apologizing it is not weakness or loss of power; to the contrary, it is a very special thing. Saying “I think I hurt your feelings; I’m sorry” is great, but when you refuse to apologize to someone because they don’t apologize to you, you end up in a vicious circle.
There are some things that we should not wait for others to do. We have a psychologist who gives a seminar every year, and that person has told us that a person’s self and behavior are separate things. I am not what I act like. You see my behavior; not who I am. When you get in this mindset, you begin to separate the things you dislike about a person’s conduct from that person’s self. In other words, saying “I don’t like the way Deniz acts” is altogether different from saying “I don’t like Deniz.” This is a powerful way of thinking and I have been sharing this with people all my life, encouraging them to think this way. Otherwise, it is very easy to say “What kind of a man are you?” “What kind of a person is she?” If you take the easy path, you can just say “I can’t waste my time on her.” Oh, but you can! You don’t have a problem with who she is; every person is unique and particular. But one person’s thinking or behavior may not be congruent with yours, and this is what you get to see. But look at me rambling!

As far as I know and can see, you are keen on shoes. I think this is our common point.
I could see that one coming.
How many pairs do you have?
Surprisingly, not too many.

Really? It does appear otherwise though.
How many do you have? Winter and summer shoes together?
I’m not sure, but I think 30 or 40.
I don’t have that many, but I wear eye-catching colors and shapes so people tend to pay attention. We have a two-week teacher training course intended for teachers outside Sabancı University. Three or four years ago, I had bought a pair of shoes with pink straps from someplace in Kadıköy. Those shoes became so much of a hit that four participants went to that shop and bought the shoe in every color: tan, green, yellow, pink… Then we took photos wearing our colorful shoes and had great fun. This must be a part of being colorful. I also like to do manual labor and to fix things. When my son comes over saying that such-and-such is broken, I come up with a way to fix that, and we both love it. My son has started to come up with fixing ideas of his own

That kind of thing does develop a child’s creativity. Well, to add to your vibrant colors in clothing and shoes, you have also made quite a name for yourself dancing at the new year’s parties on campus.
I’m not what I used to be. I’ve always loved to dance. Before Ali and I were married, we were both teaching at Bilkent. Back then in Ankara, there was a place called Paradise Dance Hall. We would go there on Fridays and dance until closing time, which was around four. We would be back on Saturday, again until closing time. We wouldn’t leave the place until Uğur the DJ stopped playing. Once my heel had broken, so I had left Ali in the club, gone back home, changed my shoes and come back. We were so wild about dancing and I was thrilled to fly over the dance floor. I still love to dance but I did slow down a little. I like dancing because it is another way for me to express myself – and so is drama. When I was in university, I acted in a play every year. The worst nightmares I have are still those where I forget my lines. Even when I wake up from them, that anxiety as if I had 10 minutes before the curtain remains with me for a long time. I’m amazed at myself because that was so long ago. I wonder what a psychoanalyst would have to say about this.
to be continued...